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Taking a look at Leftism a cult

Postby LostNFound » Fri May 17, 2019 8:52 pm

Okay then, This is a very interesting video. I suppose one could say that what this woman speaks of is given some truth. I would have to go deeper and perhaps say that Politics is in itself a cult. Dems or repubs or any party type affiliated in "POLITICS" is most likely a cult or at best a belief that fits into the cult atmosphere. So just to start off here is an open door.

This video is by one calling her self Amazing Polly

The Left Hunts Down Anyone Who Offends Their Cult

"Is Leftism a Cult and if so, what might their doctrine be? I tell you what I have determined by listening closely to them for a few years. I go over the ways in which Leftists are like Scientologists by looking at the concept of “Suppressive People” and how once someone has dared to question Cult Doctrine they are ostracized, smeared and attacked. I also go over a whole bunch of people who have been declared to be in violation of Leftist Cult Doctrine."
https://youtu.be/kGkNUt5GOPI

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Re: Taking a look at Leftism a cult

Postby Fred Steeves » Sat May 18, 2019 3:29 pm

It's really not fair to just simply point to "the left", and say this is who they are, what they do and what they want. Yes there most certainly are segments of the left that are very restrictive and regressive in nature, the Antifa and SJW types for example, just as there are segments of the right that are white nationalists, or that love war and domination like these current neocons running the show, but none of these are representative of the left or the right.

It's a little more nuanced and complicated than that.
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Re: Taking a look at Leftism a cult

Postby LostNFound » Sat May 18, 2019 8:08 pm

Thanks Fred, I would tend to agree with your point, However I also agree with Polly and her assessment. She does say that she has been studying this Leftism for quite sometime. I am going to say that the word she is using is more along the lines of What she likens it to and that is the Scientologist cult. This IMO does not take in the people that may look at the more common sensible side of left or right and I use those two terms loosely. The Politics of today world is so sick. So I do believe Polly may be trying to show just how insane this stuff is and has become. When she talks about the cultist movements she is telling about how the "cult of the Left" as she puts it does the things it does that mimic the Scientologist cult and many other cults that seem to use the same tactics.

I think we both can see how this plays out. There are those cults that do just exactly what she says. They don't want anyone thinking different than the do in other words and they will stop at nothing to vilify and censor and murder and harm and destroy a different point of view or someone that doesn't play the game they set up.

Yes, There are Dems/Leftist and Repubs/rightest and when it comes right down to it, There are two sides and only two sides as it is played out in this upside mad world. I think Polly said it well about us not having a choice in this game. We are dragged into it no matter what. Okay, the choice or what we are brainwashed to believe is a choice is you are either for me or you are against me. I Believe the little brain dead Bush Jr. said that to the world as he and his minions Neocons orchestrated the war on terror and lied to the world to do it. We can see just how the game is played and by god you had better get on a side one way or the other because that is what is pushed on the people of the world today.

I can see the Paradigm changing believe it or not and I decide how I want to help the change. Now if the Leftist cult wants to try and kill me simply because I will refuse to be made into a slave or dragged into a socialistic society of violence and hate then go for it I say but they will not get me alive to be that way. sure they do censor and you have to agree that the censoring is rampid today especially with social media and the Main stream media and and and and. Whats next for us my friend?

So You have said "Its a little more nuanced and complicated than that." Please elaborate on that. can you tell me what the hell is going on with this dog and pony show or at least give me some idea of what your view and opinion may be?

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Re: Taking a look at Leftism a cult

Postby Fred Steeves » Sun May 19, 2019 1:57 pm

Well, so first off if we're going to start labeling movements as cults like Polly does then fine, but are political cults to be found just on the "Left"? Serious question.

LostNFound wrote:So You have said "Its a little more nuanced and complicated than that." Please elaborate on that. can you tell me what the hell is going on with this dog and pony show or at least give me some idea of what your view and opinion may be?


I don't know how to post pictures here, but it might be useful for you to quick go look up images of the political compass. Left/Right is not just side by side on these scales, it's also up and down making these points of view more refined and three dimensional. Adds more texture. You'll find examples that for instance go from economic left to economic right side side by side, and authoritarian and libertarian up and down. There's another one similar that shows economic left and economic right side by side, with social right and social left up and down.

On the latter are examples of where some famous historical figures appear on the chart: Hitler would be extreme social right/center economic left, Reagan center social right/center economic right, Stalin extreme economic left/extreme social left, and the Amish extreme economic left/ center social right. See how tricky it gets? Here's a link to see for yourself, just scroll down a ways and you'll see it.
http://www.rationalrevolution.net/artic ... pectru.htm

Now when Polly speaks of "the left", can you find on that chart the certain portion of real estate of the left she might be referring to?

As a side note there's a Baptist preacher next small town over who also runs the town hardware store, who for years now has proudly displayed a sign on the front door of that store stating: "No Gays Allowed". I read that story in the local paper and actually went over to see for myself and ask him about it. He will basically take you to Romans 1 where Paul calls homosexuals reprobates, and the old way of using that word meant "a sinner who is not of the elect and is predestined to damnation".

Most of this small town is with him, and it still frightens me to ponder what they might be capable of if given enough power. Might they commence on a modern day witch hunt were there no one to stop them? Why not, God himself said gays are filthy sinners unworthy of salvation, they might even see it as helping god out; onward Christian soldiers kind of shit...

Point I'm making here is this would be a right wing lynch mob/cult, where as the lunatic fringe left wing SJWs whom I think Polly is referring to could easily take their lynch mobs/cults from twitter and social media to the streets, given enough power and no one to stop them.
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Re: Taking a look at Leftism a cult

Postby maggie » Sun May 19, 2019 9:53 pm

"I think Polly said it well about us not having a choice in this game. We are dragged into it no matter what. Okay, the choice or what we are brainwashed to believe is a choice is you are either for me or you are against me. I Believe the little brain dead Bush Jr. said that to the world as he and his minions Neocons orchestrated the war on terror and lied to the world to do it. We can see just how the game is played and by god you had better get on a side one way or the other because that is what is pushed on the people of the world today." Steven

Yeah, and what is so apparent to me is that it is going to basically take SO MANY people banding together with an idea of what is most basic and we can agree to stand on as a rock. It is neither party I am angry about because IMO both are sick. I intend to stop the oozing global corporate sludge of poisonous intention that is EVERY ONE"S nemesis.

I choose the very notion of liberty... creating practical means to afford everyone time, health and energy to be creative. Some would call that "Socialism" and refuse to agree. I call it reformation.

I have watched a lot of Polly's videos. When people have CERTAINTY that they know what is RIGHT and are afraid that some other group is not only WRONG but a threat... then....

I agree with fred here:
The most frightening observation I have made lately is way people have lost touch with "what they might be capable of if given enough power. Might they commence on a modern day witch hunt were there no one to stop them? Why not..."

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Re: Taking a look at Leftism a cult

Postby LostNFound » Mon May 20, 2019 2:46 am

Maggie wrote;

"I choose the very notion of liberty... creating practical means to afford everyone time, health and energy to be creative. Some would call that "Socialism" and refuse to agree. I call it reformation.

I have watched a lot of Polly's videos. When people have CERTAINTY that they know what is RIGHT and are afraid that some other group is not only WRONG but a threat... then...."

I also choose the very notion of Liberty, I will also add Freedom and Justice because there will always be those that want to take that from you in anyway they see fit. The governments do it well don't you think. Left or right they will steal and cheat and take everything from the people to control, to gain power and get what they want.

Now Creating a practical means to afford everyone time, health and energy to be creative is a worthy cause, I would not call that socialism if you go about it in your pure way without taking from someone to give to another or yourself. That would be socialism because it falls right into selfishness and seeking power and........ Lets take the one cell wonder calling herself AOC. Do you think she has a motive to create liberty and is her ideas practical to afford everyone time, health and energy? How about any of the socialistic and i use that word because those and them people do want to take it all from you and I for themselves. What is Trudeau doing for Canada? is he practically giving liberty and all that stuff you mentioned? What side of the fence does he stand on? Does it matter? You are right in saying that both parties are very sick.

What does affording everyone time and health and energy to to be creative mean to you? Seems we could be doing that without the interference of the government in every damn aspect of our lives. Oh and here is a good one how about the social media taking control of you entire life? Spying and using all your personal information to get rich off of. Good stuff there don't you think. What side of the fence are they on?.

No your not a socialist Maggie, I am sure of that. I will stand with you in the reformation as long as it has nothing to do with democracy because that is pure socialism. I prefer a Republic and not a republican politician. Democracy is mob rule and that is what we have today. You don't follow the main way of thinking and we can force you. Yeah democracy/socialism.

I am not sure what you might think of Polly, Seems to me you might believe she is hanging on the fact that she could be right and the leftist are wrong and a threat. Don't know for sure on that one. I personally think Polly is spot on with the video above simply because she has observed the cult thing in what she calls the leftist. I believe I have also stated that the Right has their own cult so Polly was just looking at the idiots in DC or the Antifa or perhaps the TDS people, Lets just say the snowflakes as they are called in this wacky society. More on this later.

And as far as what Fred stated about people maybe forgetting just what they may be able to do with gaining power. I would agree with that also. Scary stuff that is. So socialism/democracy = mob rule and falls into that scary stuff. I really think that we all dodged a big bad wolf by not letting the wicked witch gain power. Just my thought. We would be in a nuclear war by now, I am sure if that would have happened.

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Re: Taking a look at Leftism a cult

Postby maggie » Mon May 20, 2019 4:03 am

I was certainly glad that HC did not get elected.

What do you think of 20Pete20 https://peteforamerica.com/issues/? I think I am looking for someone who seems human to support . Do you hold having a Rhodes Scholar past with harvard against him? Could it be that someone who went Ivy League is not corrupt?

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Re: Taking a look at Leftism a cult

Postby LostNFound » Tue May 21, 2019 5:05 pm

Well Maggie, I can't make any real sense of Pete. I can see that he wants to erase our history somewhat and for some reason he appears to be on the side of globalism in his speeches. Have to keep an eye on him more. Now I will say this though, The man is only 39 years old from what I have read and I fail to see how he could be all those things that is being said about him. Keep an eye on him.

Now them as for the Leftist business and the cult mentality here is just some more video showing this to be in play. What Fred has stated above is actually becoming a reality.

Fred Steeves wrote:
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Point I'm making here is this would be a right wing lynch mob/cult, where as the lunatic fringe left wing SJWs whom I think Polly is referring to could easily take their lynch mobs/cults from twitter and social media to the streets, given enough power and no one to stop them."

Well here we go Fred. The Leftist doing what you are afraid of. However I haven't seen the Right, yet do this.

[size=150]The Escalation Of Leftist Political Violence[/size]

https://youtu.be/-A_YkJAuqY8

Scary stuff me thinks.

Oh yeah the Antifa group were caught down on the border just recently trying to purchase military weapons from the Mexican drug cartels. That show the danger of people trying to grab a power to destroy those that do not think as they do. Just saying,

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Re: Taking a look at Leftism a cult

Postby Fred Steeves » Tue May 21, 2019 9:12 pm

Well, again Steven, I'm not going to argue that there aren't some very dangerous points of view from certain elements of the Left. And they DO exert much control over media AND social media. It's a problem fo sho. Your latest video share does indeed also show this, but it is again making the mistake that the Left is one single entity acting, and thinking, as one cohesive unit. It is not.

Speaking of free speech, are you okay with how this Right Wing administration is going after Julian Assange?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_4lMIOg2KI

What about Charlottesville? Yes Antifa was there which msm loves to ignore, but what about the white supremacists who started it by marching around with torches chanting blood and soil? Was that okay? Do they represent you as a person on the Right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SL9QCrcuio8

One more thing, do you know most people both Left AND Right consider Qanon and followers a cult?

The Qult of Q.

This shit cuts both ways brother... So are we in a "Highlander" type situation where "there can be only one" side left standing when the dust settles?
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Re: Taking a look at Leftism a cult

Postby LostNFound » Thu May 23, 2019 12:58 am

Did the Unite the right people create violence, did they destroy for the hell of it. Oh yeah I think they were attacked by the Antifa bunch If I am not mistaken.

Well here is some more of the lunacy from the leftist leaning bunch. Pure hate and racism seems to be the name of the game these days. I do believe that falls right into What Polly has identified in the video above. Lash out and destroy. I haven't seen any right wing folks do this yet. Not to say they haven't or won't. So when it gets right down to it the far right or Neocons as they have been labeled do kill or send the slaves to kill for them.

As for Q I have never seen the concept or movement of Q create any violence against any one or use any kind of cult mentality. Perhaps that could be clearly shown with irrefutable proof by someone if they so think. I have never seen the Q gouge for money, However, I have seen shills and trolls that want to gouge by jumping on the trailer do it and sooner or later they wind up going away. Not sure how it all works but it does. So anyway this thread really is not about Q but rather the similarities between Cults and the Leftists. Oh and Fred, you for some reason had to pour some hate out on a pastor. Well his religion does fit into the cult mentality but I suppose you might think he does not have the right to think the way he does. Now did or does that person physically harm others or does he just practice his religion in a non violent way?

Oh well here is another video, and this one is in England.

[size=150]British Leftists Endorse Political Violence | Farage, Robinson, Benjamin ‘Milkshaked’ | Hypocrisy[/size]
https://youtu.be/G2MNj4kwCuI

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