The truth of LRH L. Ron Hubbard

[Phil]

Thanks for that Christine, and apologies to Jim for completely misreading what he says "others who were not scientologists" is pretty clear (pun intended ) that there weren't any

Jiminii's appearance and how captive an audience he attained (possibly because of BR's affirmation of him) was a huge change of perspective for me and my own relationship with the "community".

I had been studying Scientology at the time from as many angles I can find..."Going Clear" was great, my favorite part is Jason Beghe pointing to his interview, those 2hrs he did were some of my favorite YouTube viewing on the web, which I never saw until after I had stopped looking for LRon Intel specifically, curiously enough. Made me think the church was fairly successful in suppressing it at that time

[Phil]

[youtube]https://youtu.be/KHb0BZyF5Ok[/youtube]

Love that guy, could listen to him all day

[Naga_Fireball]

Man, I actually said holy shit when I read that article; that's quite a chunk of change --



It's hard to know if cruise made his preference known.. Damn

[Phil]

I didn't see any mention of Tom Cruise contributing to it though (or anything about him except mention that he's a prominent member)...where did you get that from Christine?

magazine at checkstand

Um...I always called those "tabloids"...and took anything in them with grain of salt, well more grains than the mainstream--as they historically have gone for the sensational as much as any "facts".

[Naga_Fireball]

Phil, there are gradients within the'tabloid' world, I believe it was People magazine.

But I hate Scientology based on the information available.

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[Christine]

Sorry Phil, I was being lazy, here is the link from RT: https://www.rt.com/usa/347840-scientolo ... -launched/

I didn't see any mention of Tom Cruise contributing to it though (or anything about him except mention that he's a prominent member)...where did you get that from Christine?

magazine at checkstand

Um...I always called those "tabloids"...and took anything in them with grain of salt, well more grains than the mainstream--as they historically have gone for the sensational as much as any "facts".

[cuitlahuac]

They gave me a private forum called source mission. I have to approve anyone to the mods to allow them access.

I still use it because a lot of interesting stuff has come up from someone in Mexico who ran Scientology down there.

There is too much to write to bring it all here. We are talking about coming from the future. When I listened to Alex Collier on Internet radio September 11 2012 he said this period of time has already happened. 900 years in the future the entire Galaxy was taken over with mind control created on this planet at this period of time.

That's when I woke up. I was audited by a class 12 auditor that was off loaded from Flag Service Org and is now in freezone.

This was done 2 years before Alex said this period of time has already happened. While I was on PA someone contacted me from Ron's org and I asked him about going completely out of the physical universe to a complete void and re-entered in the physical universe about 700 AD. Then completely out of the physical universe again to the void and back to my body. I asked him what was it. He said it is some OT, (operating Thetan person capable of God !Ike abilities), level which is OT 20 in Ron's org. It is the ability to out of the body to source itself and back in the body at another time period.

That happened the first time I was audited by a class 8 auditor in 1973 before Ron's org was even created. The CofS never allowed me to be audited again after that. I had all the abilities Ron's org deliver and already proved I could do them before Ron's org existing.

The auditing we asked this class 12 auditor to do on me was on LRH's time track of Theta tapes. These are commands on the tapes to locate your other timelines. LRH said on those tapes a thetan could have 20 or more other timelines he/she is running in other bodies on the planet and off. He audited me to find all my other timelines. These auditing commands were never delivered in Scientology, but we're on the tapes. The class 12 auditor never did this process before. The class 12 auditor dated when I came into this body. It was when this body was dying at 4 years 7 months old about February 1950. This body was born 1945.

That blew open more in me than anything else in this life time. I got home later and layed down and asked, "who am I " and the word Maitreya come to me and I was flooded with white light for a long time, the most beautiful powerful light ever and suddenly I jumped up and went to the Internet and found inelia Benz on PA and her story is similar to mine. This is my first time in this physical universe. I was created right out of source. The auditor couldn't take me in a past life because there was nothing there. This timeline is created new with no past to look. The meter was reading something that came from one of my other timelines. So I had to go to source and go back in time on my other timelines time track to answer the question.

After this when I was on PA and the person from Ron's org contacted me he said the ability to go in and out of time is called superstatic rundown. Then some entity come inside me and wanted to deliver a message. The message came in words in my head.
The words were that LRH asked David Miscaverige to drop his body in a way he can leave the planet and escape the force fields around the planet and go back to galactic central and report the illegal take over of the Governments of the planet by aliens. The aliens from 900 years in the future sent sleeper children into the upper management to take over Scientology from inside. This means the upper management have minds controlled by aliens. LRH ordered DM to get all the children out of upper management and to prevent any OT level tech from getting to the aliens and going to the future. Bill Ryan kept me on PA because he was psychic attacked by reptilians from 900 years in the future. His mods wanted to kick me off PA. That's why he made a Q and A about Scientology

The sleeper children let in the FBI to takeover the çhurch. My friend was OT6 and went to Flag Service Org and told me they knew Scientology was taken over by the cabal but their attitude was, "it's just another game."

To be continued .

jiminii

Thanks jiminii. So far this is the most concise and resumed version of what I have been reading on what you say.

Just for this might be of interest to you. A person told me he has spoted the new kind of invader force and he has seen it infiltrated in Church of Scientology. He explained me that it is a "sandwich" of a light being "mixed or attached" with a darkness being. The light being faces forward, while the dark being faces back, just like the Roman God Janus. He told me the person (the sandwich) is manipulated directly from the mothership through the darkness being.

This could be what the "sleeper children" might consist of. They could be manipulated by reptilians as you say, or by mantids.

Apparently few can see these new "forces" in opperation. And of course, if Church of Scientology was infiltrated by them, the rest of the planet would be "piece of cake" for them.

Note: You say you don't want to "know" about the cabal so as not to become contaminated with their thinking. Wel, I think one can understand them by study, no need to "contaminate" oneself by "rubbing" with them. This person explained me that there are displaces intelligences, meaning, that there are beings of light and beings of darkness. For ones light is Source, and for the others darkness is Source. When you take a light being and put him in dark domains, it's bad, just as putting a darness being in a light world like this. I don't fully understand this yet, but he says that is the problem. If you come from the future, maybe you can understand this, I hope. Inelia also speaks of light Source and Dark Source.

This guy is kind of afraid to tell me this, because he almost dies after meeting them at the Org. Funny that there are 2 kinds of Scientology in the future, the black scientologists and the white ones.

[Fredkc]

Christine;
I will state again what I have in the past, I found value in auditing, ironically it was fundamental for me to unravel my own encounter with the Mandato and mind control (the Mandato used the same, though more subtle tactics that LRH used).

Seeing the uselessness of fighting that belief, for built in to it is the forged idea that anyone who challenges El-Ron or the Tech is in Xenu's camp and seen as an enemy. My only real choice was to leave the scene, claim myself as sovereign and gratefully take what I learned.

Generally, I avoid threads on scientology. In fact I run like hell. What makes me hesitant is that most of my feelings on the subject are very personal, therefor subjective. While It makes them easily challenged, it doesn't mean they aren't true.

I have two friends who had dealings with them.
One is a friend of 20 years. He joined up back "in the old days", when LRH was still "on planet". Hardly a day goes by that he doesn't quote Hubbard. Yet you couldn't get him involved with what it's become with a club, and hot pointy things. He too still thinks auditing is a clean, accurate process, but one that requires the person on the other end have no dog in the hunt. "Aye, there's the rub".

He had completed his training as an auditor, but one thing or another "came up" which prevented him from advancing. Long story short, he could do the work, he "wouldn't play the game". 6 months from then he resigned. Silence (which is rare)

He even went back, demanding he be labelled "a supressive". Said he would consider it his "Diploma" for being honest. More silence.

My other friend's tale is more delicate.Steve was the kindest man I have met on this planet. He endured what would now be labelled a "very typical scientology story", that can't possibly cover the events. Admittedly I am very subjective, on the matter, but I can find no other truth to it. He was my friend.

The coroner called his death a "suicide". What else could he do? Ask me, or anyone else who knew Steve, Scientology murdered him.

if you find that unbelievable, fine. I can only say,
1) You don know who you're dealing with.
2)That's ok, just don't look for me to change my story.
Fred

[cuitlahuac]

About a 1000 years ago a Royal warrior from Galactic Central was sent here to stop the destruction of the life support systems of this planet.
This man had his own agenda. He was in search of a way to rehabilitate Native abilities of a spirit and the only place he could do this was on a prison planet. He would never be allowed to open up the powers of a spirit being at galactic central.

Since the last war that happened about 500 years ago all these most powerful creator god type viewpoints were trapped on prison planets.

jiminii

jiminii, I have a question. LRH indicates in his book "Mission into Time", that he was living in roman times. How come he came 1000 years ago. Was this another view point? Or are his accounts post-christian Roman Times?

[jiminii]

Might I ask you, jiminii, what is the purpose for your presence here at EE? (Borrowing from Phil.)

Because Christine likes my original post and wanted me to post my ideas

jiminii