Re: Organic Portals - Souless Humans
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 6:31 pm
Without wanting to write a book in response to what anyone else believes, there are several thoughts that come to mind when I read your comments.
I have come to a place in my own personal journey where I have to admit I do have beliefs, which to me, is anything you think is true, without having experience that brings that belief into an experiential knowing. We could get really thorny and say, how do we know anything is real? Memories, experiences, they can all be subjective. Many of my beliefs are even subconscious. In other words, I behave as though certain things are true and real, in part because of the nature of the program and subsequent construct we collectively find ourselves in. I would even go so far as to say that within this construct we, each of us as individuals, live in our own unique reality bubble, while still participating in a larger bubble of so called reality.
Now, I already know that Eelco has expressed repeatedly his difficulty with the whole idea of separating people into groups with any kind of hierarchical structure. But, the truth that we all experience, is that this was done to the whole of humanity before this particular life experience even began. In other words, the structures we all feel instinctively are not fair or equally distributed were already here before we were born. I did not consciously in this life time create these structures. And they are not structures that are conducive to long term survival of the human species.
Also, one would have to arrive at a mutually accepted definition of evil, and even what it means to be alive. The whole topic of what constitutes a soul could be a whole thread on its own, with likely not much agreement to be had. I, personally, feel at this time that I am actually a spiritual entity first, and that it is eternal, although it may not always experience itself as individuated. I have long felt, though not believed necessarily (but still don't know for certain so leave it to where I can modify my thoughts upon new information), that the soul is more of an experiential container for the spirit. Kind of like the hard drive that can store information, memories, thoughts, experiences etc. In this way I develop more individuality and a wider range of experiences that include but are not limited to physicality.
How do I interpret being alive, especially in the sense that I feel the above article was trying to convey? I will try to answer that. At a most basic level, everything is alive. I learned in my college chemistry class years ago about the idea that the amount of energy in the universe remains constant. There is never more or less of it, it only changes form. Everything is made up of moving energy that simply appears solid to us. So how am I different from anything else? I do know from my earliest memories that I had questions about this experience of reality that absolutely no one, not one person for much of my life, was asking. Why do I know beyond any shadow of doubt that this truly isn't all there is. Yes, everything is alive, but alive in what way. Everything is energy vibrating at different speeds and octaves. But I sensed myself being alive as in the bigger me being too big to even fit in this body.
So, maybe more correctly would be to say that some, even from birth, have always been aware of themselves as being much more than their body. The problem is, if you don't have clear memories of experiencing yourself outside of this body, it still falls into the realm of belief. In other words, I feel I know this, and do have some memories, but I could never prove that to someone who doesn't. Each person must look deep inside themselves to determine their own truth about who and what they really are.
For me, the value of the above article is that it provides a way, not the only way, to look at a phenomena we can all see without looking too hard. Is there something wrong with me that I have always felt different than almost everyone I have met in this life? I used to honestly believe that.
If I turn it around, though, and accept that maybe not everyone is coming from the same place, or even here for the same reasons, it frees me up to explore what it is I really did come here for. And it still comes back squarely on to me. Do I purposefully dumb myself down and start watching reality TV with my daughter-in-law, just so I can make her feel more comfortable around me? Do I need her to change? She has every right to live her life as she chooses. I can't honestly say whether anyone has a soul or not. But, if having a certain kind of soul predisposes one to spiritual yearnings that cannot be denied, might that not mean that I am alive in a somewhat different way than someone who has absolutely no desire to look deep within?
And as far as evil goes, my definition of evil is anything that knowingly and with conscious intent behaves in a manner that consistently destroys life, with absolutely no conscience at all. It is an anti life force. It is also my feeling that all of us have engaged in activities that can be viewed as anti-life. But it is the conscious intent I am talking about here. I have known many in my life that seem to be more susceptible to this anti-life energy, but I still wouldn't call them evil or soulless. The entity, beings, or force that is actively behind the evil occurring on our planet may not even be embodied for all I know. From my own personal experience, I have seen how it can mimic and influence life forms to behave in a way that goes against life. And, at least at this point in time, it seems to have its source outside of our conscious reality construct. But, I cannot deny that evil exists in this world.
What is coming to light about the darker goings on in this world are anything but life affirming. When I hold my little 18 month grandson, sleeping in my arms, I cannot wrap my mind around beings who knowingly engage in ritual sacrifices of our most innocent and undeserving. And if you think this isn't happening, then maybe denial is a just a river in Egypt for you.
I also think about all the genetic manipulation that has gone on for eons of time. I remember reading about these cows that were bred for aggression.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/j ... super-cows" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
This is just one example of what we do know about. If cows can be bred to be aggressive do you not think that this very kind of breeding for particular traits is just limited to animals and plant life?
I also read the book Diana referred to, called Political Ponerology. It is a fascinating study of evil on a wide scale level. One of the main points I took away from it is that very few beings on the planet are truly evil, with only evil intent. Most just get used as pawns. The more unaware one is of the nature of evil on this planet, the more one can be used for nefarious ends and not even know it. This is primarily why this subject interests me. I no longer want to change the world. I just want to change me, and that consists of mainly waking up to a knowing that lies just under the surface, one that can be re-mem-bered, or reassembled. If those of us who do remember what it was like before we came to feel stuck in these 3D bodies don't reassemble ourselves then I fear we will be forever stuck in a live-die-repeat cycle that I, for one, wish to totally wake up from. I feel and hope that by doing this it will have a radiant quality of energy that can assist others who are likewise motivated to wake up from this dream. For those who wish to remain on this never ending treadmill, it is not my job to awaken them. But I cannot once again go back to sleep just so they feel more comfortable either.
I have come to a place in my own personal journey where I have to admit I do have beliefs, which to me, is anything you think is true, without having experience that brings that belief into an experiential knowing. We could get really thorny and say, how do we know anything is real? Memories, experiences, they can all be subjective. Many of my beliefs are even subconscious. In other words, I behave as though certain things are true and real, in part because of the nature of the program and subsequent construct we collectively find ourselves in. I would even go so far as to say that within this construct we, each of us as individuals, live in our own unique reality bubble, while still participating in a larger bubble of so called reality.
Now, I already know that Eelco has expressed repeatedly his difficulty with the whole idea of separating people into groups with any kind of hierarchical structure. But, the truth that we all experience, is that this was done to the whole of humanity before this particular life experience even began. In other words, the structures we all feel instinctively are not fair or equally distributed were already here before we were born. I did not consciously in this life time create these structures. And they are not structures that are conducive to long term survival of the human species.
Also, one would have to arrive at a mutually accepted definition of evil, and even what it means to be alive. The whole topic of what constitutes a soul could be a whole thread on its own, with likely not much agreement to be had. I, personally, feel at this time that I am actually a spiritual entity first, and that it is eternal, although it may not always experience itself as individuated. I have long felt, though not believed necessarily (but still don't know for certain so leave it to where I can modify my thoughts upon new information), that the soul is more of an experiential container for the spirit. Kind of like the hard drive that can store information, memories, thoughts, experiences etc. In this way I develop more individuality and a wider range of experiences that include but are not limited to physicality.
How do I interpret being alive, especially in the sense that I feel the above article was trying to convey? I will try to answer that. At a most basic level, everything is alive. I learned in my college chemistry class years ago about the idea that the amount of energy in the universe remains constant. There is never more or less of it, it only changes form. Everything is made up of moving energy that simply appears solid to us. So how am I different from anything else? I do know from my earliest memories that I had questions about this experience of reality that absolutely no one, not one person for much of my life, was asking. Why do I know beyond any shadow of doubt that this truly isn't all there is. Yes, everything is alive, but alive in what way. Everything is energy vibrating at different speeds and octaves. But I sensed myself being alive as in the bigger me being too big to even fit in this body.
So, maybe more correctly would be to say that some, even from birth, have always been aware of themselves as being much more than their body. The problem is, if you don't have clear memories of experiencing yourself outside of this body, it still falls into the realm of belief. In other words, I feel I know this, and do have some memories, but I could never prove that to someone who doesn't. Each person must look deep inside themselves to determine their own truth about who and what they really are.
For me, the value of the above article is that it provides a way, not the only way, to look at a phenomena we can all see without looking too hard. Is there something wrong with me that I have always felt different than almost everyone I have met in this life? I used to honestly believe that.
If I turn it around, though, and accept that maybe not everyone is coming from the same place, or even here for the same reasons, it frees me up to explore what it is I really did come here for. And it still comes back squarely on to me. Do I purposefully dumb myself down and start watching reality TV with my daughter-in-law, just so I can make her feel more comfortable around me? Do I need her to change? She has every right to live her life as she chooses. I can't honestly say whether anyone has a soul or not. But, if having a certain kind of soul predisposes one to spiritual yearnings that cannot be denied, might that not mean that I am alive in a somewhat different way than someone who has absolutely no desire to look deep within?
And as far as evil goes, my definition of evil is anything that knowingly and with conscious intent behaves in a manner that consistently destroys life, with absolutely no conscience at all. It is an anti life force. It is also my feeling that all of us have engaged in activities that can be viewed as anti-life. But it is the conscious intent I am talking about here. I have known many in my life that seem to be more susceptible to this anti-life energy, but I still wouldn't call them evil or soulless. The entity, beings, or force that is actively behind the evil occurring on our planet may not even be embodied for all I know. From my own personal experience, I have seen how it can mimic and influence life forms to behave in a way that goes against life. And, at least at this point in time, it seems to have its source outside of our conscious reality construct. But, I cannot deny that evil exists in this world.
What is coming to light about the darker goings on in this world are anything but life affirming. When I hold my little 18 month grandson, sleeping in my arms, I cannot wrap my mind around beings who knowingly engage in ritual sacrifices of our most innocent and undeserving. And if you think this isn't happening, then maybe denial is a just a river in Egypt for you.
I also think about all the genetic manipulation that has gone on for eons of time. I remember reading about these cows that were bred for aggression.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/j ... super-cows" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
This is just one example of what we do know about. If cows can be bred to be aggressive do you not think that this very kind of breeding for particular traits is just limited to animals and plant life?
I also read the book Diana referred to, called Political Ponerology. It is a fascinating study of evil on a wide scale level. One of the main points I took away from it is that very few beings on the planet are truly evil, with only evil intent. Most just get used as pawns. The more unaware one is of the nature of evil on this planet, the more one can be used for nefarious ends and not even know it. This is primarily why this subject interests me. I no longer want to change the world. I just want to change me, and that consists of mainly waking up to a knowing that lies just under the surface, one that can be re-mem-bered, or reassembled. If those of us who do remember what it was like before we came to feel stuck in these 3D bodies don't reassemble ourselves then I fear we will be forever stuck in a live-die-repeat cycle that I, for one, wish to totally wake up from. I feel and hope that by doing this it will have a radiant quality of energy that can assist others who are likewise motivated to wake up from this dream. For those who wish to remain on this never ending treadmill, it is not my job to awaken them. But I cannot once again go back to sleep just so they feel more comfortable either.