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Have you seen this

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:09 am
by Sophia
They are saying some awful stuff about the admin of this site here http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthr ... ng-members

I don't believe Christine that you would steal from him and that he's being a nasty old man.

Much love to you both :)

Re: Have you seen this

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:58 pm
by Naga_Fireball
Holy crap. That's not nice of them.

FYI in the Cotopaxi volcano thread BR still thanks Bob Dratch, so don't let the loss of that person's respect and regard trouble you becauese he is nothing but a bandit Chief hiding out...

Thanks for the Superior forum Christine.
"Fitst they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win"

Also Streisand effect, the more they whine the more you win

Re: Have you seen this

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 5:01 pm
by Naga_Fireball
BD and his friend/employee CAL have not stopped harassing my family, we still get spoofed hacked bothered, so if BR is associating with hacker and pro stalker rings, no wonder he left the country.

Personally i figured Bob recruits terrorists for a living so there ya go...

Re: Have you seen this

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:24 pm
by Old Wolf
Descent into drama. Thus begins the arguments, polarisation and eventual descent of community into bitterness and polarised egocentric opinionated dissent. All centered around the very human desire to idolise someone. Let's not let the same thing happen here.

Kindly.

Re: Have you seen this

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:09 pm
by Naga_Fireball
I hear lots of judgment from this new guy.

Loyalty is not a crime and BR uses people like toilet paper so, how does it help this forum to ignore attempts to put us under and also cut Christine & Karelia off from their friends...

"Descent into drama" is judgmental charged hostile language stifling free speech.


I wondered about your statement "useless things on computers" too. Very charged unless you were talking about yourself. None of us feel that our efforts are useless. How defeatist.


Better in the sun than the dark unless there are things to hide.

Re: Have you seen this

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:56 pm
by Christine
Hello Old Wolf, Sophia (welcome to EE) and to Naga Fireball,

I appreciate the support as it is truly beneath my dignity to address being publicly put in "the stocks" on the Avalon forum. I have remained as silent as I can without violating my own sense of Self ... it requires fine balance to walk on the razor's edge.

You will find my one and only semi-public statement on a member's only thread here: viewtopic.php?f=13&t=153 I won't dwell on any of this for it will die away when the fire isn't fed. Those of us who have been "inside" the mind of Avalon know too well that all is not as it appears and have chosen to remain silent observers bearing witness. For me this is the most powerful statement we can make. We withdraw consent to be utilized, coerced, or condemned by those who find a self-righteous bent of nature.

Earth Empaths has maintained a decorum and dignity of purpose and like Old Wolf says we need not participate in drama and at the same time we can extend empathy to those who have been utilized for the egoic demagoguery of others. The practice of deep listening, Dadirri, which means inner, deep listening and quiet, still awareness. It is a 'tuning in' experience with the specific aim to come to a deeper understanding of the beauty of nature. Dadirri recognises the inner spirit that calls us to reflection and contemplation of the wonders of all creation is effective in helping each other heal our own wounds.

It is with love unbound we touch each other and those who know not what they do ...

Christine
Old Wolf wrote:Descent into drama. Thus begins the arguments, polarisation and eventual descent of community into bitterness and polarised egocentric opinionated dissent. All centered around the very human desire to idolise someone. Let's not let the same thing happen here.

Kindly.

Re: Have you seen this

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:06 pm
by Christine
Hey there lady wonder!

Lets pull up a chair and have a sit ... you know how I feel about what went down and try as I did to get others to see it backfired on me... so I have come to a place of quietude and Knowing.

When we speak of free speech it must be free for all of us... I think Old Wolf was just trying to find a combination of words to express some discomfort and to soften the potential for a blowup, would be a first on EE. You and I may be better equipped to bat some hard balls having been knocked in the head a time or two. ;-)

Oh, and one more thing ... you know me, I always look for opportunities to extend clarity ... and it is this thing on loyalty. It isn't a crime and indeed my ego is comforted to know I have friends that will stick up for me, as a human being these are qualities that help us feel valued and loved. All good! However ... check loyalty for it has a dark side too, one that demands and coerces. I prefer that we simply empower each other to be the best we can possibly be. I love you with a fierceness as you know.

Christine
Naga_Fireball wrote:I hear lots of judgment from this new guy.

Loyalty is not a crime and BR uses people like toilet paper so, how does it help this forum to ignore attempts to put us under and also cut Christine & Karelia off from their friends...

"Descent into drama" is judgmental charged hostile language stifling free speech.


I wondered about your statement "useless things on computers" too. Very charged unless you were talking about yourself. None of us feel that our efforts are useless. How defeatist.


Better in the sun than the dark unless there are things to hide.

Re: Have you seen this

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:48 am
by Old Wolf
Naga_Fireball wrote:I wondered about your statement "useless things on computers" too. Very charged unless you were talking about yourself.
My day job is writing software that's used to circumvent overcomplicated tax law. It's extremely complicated and is actually in reality pointless. The tax laws themselves have been pointlessly overcomplicated and inappropriate for years and the only purpose they now serve is to maintain the industry which has been built on the back of having those inappropriate laws. So I work daily maintaining incredibly complicated software that tries to help companies defraud individuals whom are in turn attempting to defraud the government of the tax which was effectively stolen in the first place.

Reading that back to myself, I can't help but laugh :D
Naga_Fireball wrote:Better in the sun than the dark unless there are things to hide.
I'm happy to be open. If there's anything else you'd like to know about me, please feel free to ask.

Kindly.

Re: Have you seen this

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:45 am
by Naga_Fireball
Christine, sorry.
Old Wolf, very very sorry.

I should have more tact.

They know when people are under stress.

Re: Have you seen this

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:37 pm
by Christine
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BEAR HUGS always make a person feel better... <3
Naga_Fireball wrote:Christine, sorry.
Old Wolf, very very sorry.

I should have more tact.

They know when people are under stress.