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Christine wrote:Ok, friends ... and others. ;) I know there is something valuable we can get to here if we focus.

This isn't about anything other than seeing through the mechanisms that are re-playing out in the alternative media, why this happens and what we are to learn? We keep looping back or being diverted from what and why? What is it that is right in front of our noses that we seem to be missing? Well, those are my questions ...
Well.....if we look at the "meta data" what we have is yet another load of disinfo obfuscating what is already a very difficult picture.

To me he appeared to be wobbly & amateurish at first & then something changed, it would not come as a surprise if a small team was working on the material when it was on full tilt.

The main theme all these people have is that whatever is out there are "aliens" in a very "star trek" scenario type of thing, which is absolutely NOT the case.

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So basically...let the blue bird of happiness fly up your nose. :O)
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Another day dawns here, the sun muted through the clouds, it rained beautifully all night.

Thanks for the assessments, the sharing from all of us opens vistas. So, back to square one. Maggie, your analysis is brilliant, here is the crux of the matter really, story and what is extracted from it. Um? So what is it that makes the Star Wars, Star Trek, star brothers and sisters, galactic war, and space/ time travel so enticing? It gets more traction than even the most juicy true conspiracy stories of real evil doing right here at home. I have often felt a sudden brittle sadness that some Earth shattering news is so easily overlooked, glanced at and walked away from. I think it is because people feel powerless so their minds jump to the fantastical make believe or savior meme then they sink back to life as usual, can't do a thing about it so I will go bury my head in the sand.

@ P'sC - so curious as to your statement that reality is NOT the Star Trek one. My questions about the Book of Man, or any narrative of such, is that there is really nothing or very little factual to support it. Many researchers put together seemingly credible conclusions, such as Wes Penre or Ralph Ellis, that on closer scrutiny don't add up or contain contradicting information. AND, this is the BIG AND ... their research leads to contradicting, even confusing conclusions. I respect those who dedicate their life to real research, they do a great service so my comments are not meant to discredit them. My preference for information is from the Nag Hammadi and the most unadulterated aboriginal songlines of those like Credo Mutwa, though he has been 'made a persona via David Icke.

What I strongly feel about Corey Goode is that he has a strong empathic tone in his voice and was originally relating a part of his early life traumas (mostly true, and quite likely part of programs that were run on him). These 'programs' are quite possibly similar in nature to a great swath of human consciousness, I have vague recall of such from my childhood, though much remains blocked out. My conjecture at the moment is that all of humanity is 'programed' and Corey's programs seem to be some of the broadest ones used, astral pirate ship picking him up, reinforced by Peter Pan stories and movies or taken from this tale.

Another quick analysis of the PA blow up is that BR is always happy to have controversial characters along with the moderators and diplomats, this mix is purposely stirred from time to time to keep things interesting. The stirring is either via the appearance of someone in the know who promises to reveal some deep secret (Charles, maurice, etc.) or via attacking and outing (oh my! scandalous a la titillating tabloid) a longstanding member if such is deemed too close to the truth, questions too deeply the assumed authority, has gained too large of a following or is now seen as detrimental to the reputation of PA. This pattern has repeated again and again. The current baddie is Simon Parkes who was once a coddled stellar personage of PA. BR didn't really like SP or even agree with him but he clearly saw the benefit of keeping him active on the forum.

* sidenote: SP on the other hand was very interested in what I was seeing during the blow up, my last conversation with him was basically him questioning me very graciously of course about what was going on behind the scenes on PA.

So when Corey's story burst on to the scene it wasn't consciously planned, at least not from my point of view, though as I have said before there was a deep knowing in me that his life was going to change drastically. I remember telling him when he was worried about money and the insurance company challenging payment for his surgeries (they were real) that he wouldn't have to worry much longer. I bring this up simply because I sense the background of an intelligence mechanism that uses our impulses to further an agenda, this is the unseen piece that is behind the personalities and I really feel if we stay stuck on the personalities we will miss seeing something and it could be frightening at first, then liberating if we confront it.

Corey was gathering a larger and larger following plus getting private communications from the very audience that I speculate PA was set up to gather information from; abductees, MILABs, MKUltra and psychics. BR keeps meticulous accounts of every conversation typed or recorded. He also keeps pictures and PMs sent to him on external hard drives. During the blow up I was freaking because of the vulnerability I felt people were in and the harvesting of metadata that included very personal accounts told in a supposedly safe arena.

I don't wish to diverge further down my own story line. :) The only real questions for me are the healing ones, the empowering ones: What and how do we take away the cobwebs from our consciousness and walk (fly) free? What is my purpose and how do I know when I am in alignment with it, in flow and in grace?

story (n.1) **[my notes, from his-story as in tale. Meaning went from recital of true events to narrative of fictitious events meant to entertain.]

"connected account or narration of some happening," c. 1200, originally "narrative of important events or celebrated persons of the past," from Old French estorie, estoire "story, chronicle, history," from Late Latin storia, shortened from Latin historia "history, account, tale, story" (see history). Meaning "recital of true events" first recorded late 14c.; sense of "narrative of fictitious events meant to entertain" is from c. 1500. Not differentiated from history till 1500s. As a euphemism for "a lie" it dates from 1690s. Meaning "newspaper article" is from 1892. Story-line first attested 1941. That's another story "that requires different treatment" is attested from 1818. Story of my life "sad truth" first recorded 1938, from typical title of an autobiography.
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Re: Breaking silence on Corey Goode and asking for your honest assessments

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Christine, based on that last bit, you are so brave. Walking right in and out of the viper pit and living to tell the story, rather like Daniel in the lion's den.

Thank you for filling in some of those details. Sometimes the most dangerous snoops are people we trust, and when they ask for that trust then 180° with the goods, that's bad!!

And by goods I don't mean "gold bars" I mean PERSONAL LETTERS (PMS) we thought were private.

No wonder you have a thread, private messages are not private,

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@ P'sC - so curious as to your statement that reality is NOT the Star Trek one. My questions about the Book of Man, or any narrative of such, is that there is really nothing or very little factual to support it. Many researchers put together seemingly credible conclusions, such as Wes Penre or Ralph Ellis, that on closer scrutiny don't add up or contain contradicting information. AND, this is the BIG AND ... their research leads to contradicting, even confusing conclusions. I respect those who dedicate their life to real research, they do a great service so my comments are not meant to discredit them. My preference for information is from the Nag Hammadi and the most unadulterated aboriginal songlines of those like Credo Mutwa, though he has been 'made a persona via David Icke.
The Book Of Man is something I came across because I'm on a forum that the maker of those videos is on, I found them very interesting but it's one of those things I consider without necessarily believing.

My view that we are not in a "Star Trek" reality re the UFO / abduction scenario is based primarily on my own experiences & the findings of the most truthful & accurate UFO researchers (IMO), Jacques Vallee & John Keel ( specifically the books "The Invisible Collage" & "The Eighth Tower" respectively )

The fact that Hollywood always paints the same picture with "Aliens" says a lot, that is that they are simply intelligent biological entities from other solar systems.

Experience & evidence says this is not the case, it's something far stranger & yet fits perfectly with what the Bible says about our origins, unfashionable as it may be !

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Do say more, as I find myself agreeing with what you are saying. I will need find the books you reference.
Pluto's Child wrote:The Book Of Man is something I came across because I'm on a forum that the maker of those videos is on, I found them very interesting but it's one of those things I consider without necessarily believing.

My view that we are not in a "Star Trek" reality re the UFO / abduction scenario is based primarily on my own experiences & the findings of the most truthful & accurate UFO researchers (IMO), Jacques Vallee & John Keel ( specifically the books "The Invisible Collage" & "The Eighth Tower" respectively )

The fact that Hollywood always paints the same picture with "Aliens" says a lot, that is that they are simply intelligent biological entities from other solar systems.

Experience & evidence says this is not the case, it's something far stranger & yet fits perfectly with what the Bible says about our origins, unfashionable as it may be !
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Christine wrote:Do say more, as I find myself agreeing with what you are saying. I will need find the books you reference.
Pluto's Child wrote:The Book Of Man is something I came across because I'm on a forum that the maker of those videos is on, I found them very interesting but it's one of those things I consider without necessarily believing.

My view that we are not in a "Star Trek" reality re the UFO / abduction scenario is based primarily on my own experiences & the findings of the most truthful & accurate UFO researchers (IMO), Jacques Vallee & John Keel ( specifically the books "The Invisible Collage" & "The Eighth Tower" respectively )

The fact that Hollywood always paints the same picture with "Aliens" says a lot, that is that they are simply intelligent biological entities from other solar systems.

Experience & evidence says this is not the case, it's something far stranger & yet fits perfectly with what the Bible says about our origins, unfashionable as it may be !
Those two books are very readable & explain a lot.....up to a point.

DW is doing a spin version of the classic UFO cult phenomena that is well recorded & has happened over & over again, Dr Greer is just doing a classic version, these UFO cults are covered in Jacques Vallee's "the invisible collage" book.

John Keel has pointed out how UFOs are related to all manner of other phenomena, and that classic UFO researchers "cherry pick" their cases, and that the phenomena is related to mind.

I will do a thread on my "theory", I don't want it under this guy's name lol, I have tried a few times but my writing skills are limited, so nothing has been posted so far, but seeing how this theory I have seems to explain everything I must do it, even though I have worries about repercussions.

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This has been touched on a bit, but what seems to stand out for me in this saga that has many offshoots, is this putting people up on a pedestal of some sort. Specifically, I saw PA do this with a number of people during my 3 years of posting there. Then, somewhere down the road, either sooner or later, these very same people who drew so much intended attention, whether they are consciously aware of the set-up or not, get completely torn down. And, for the most part, everyone who participated cannot or will not look at their own responsibility, in first giving their power away, and then demonizing whoever the golden child or children were, and then just as quickly moving onto the next attention grabber. If one doesn't come along soon enough to re-infuse everyone with enthusiasm, one will be conjured up. It's almost like when I feed our dogs lately, the yellow jackets start to swarm as soon as I start dishing it up.

There is no blame in this observation, as I witnessed my own participation, particularly with Simon Parkes. I did learn from it though. And strangely, I harbor no judgement towards Simon for him not being who I thought he was. The responsibility still comes squarely back on me. I am actually thankful for his participation in my waking up a bit. Funny how you don't even know how much asleep you really are, until something comes along to slap you up side the head.

And as far as Corey goes, the same thing kind of applies. Even Simon Parkes said he had clones of himself. I think this is a far more pervasive phenomena than we even know. And I didn't have a pirate ship come for me as a child. It seems they can tailor make whatever will most appeal to your psyche. For me it was a white winged horse. It really is like waking up to a deeper aspect of the dream. What we are really beginning to see is "The Program" behind all of our seeming reality.

As the song, Strawberry Fields, goes:

Let me take you down
Cause I'm going to Strawberry Fields
Nothing is real
And nothing to get hung about
Strawberry Fields forever

Living is easy with eyes closed
Misunderstanding all you see
It's getting hard to be someone
But it all works out
It doesn't matter much to me

Let me take you down
Cause I'm going to Strawberry Fields
Nothing is real
And nothing to get hung about
Strawberry Fields forever

No one I think is in my tree
I mean it must be high or low
That is you can't, you know, tune in
But it's all right
That is I think it's not too bad

Let me take you down
Cause I'm going to Strawberry Fields
Nothing is real
And nothing to get hung about
Strawberry Fields forever

Always, no sometimes, think it's me
But you know I know when it's a dream
I think I know I mean a yes
But it's all wrong
That is I think I disagree


I have been put on a pedestal, by a narcissistic personality who was, now so obviously in hind sight, "sent my way", and then subsequently torn down, to the ground. Truly was not a fun thing to experience. But I have ran from so much discomfort in just this life alone, that the bag is full and must be emptied out. I have no choice but to turn and face that which I have participated in creating, whether I was fully aware of it at the time, or not. So, that is what I have taken away, from my own very personal perspective. It's all about learning what is real, relatively speaking, and what is not. For me, it's a process, a journey if you will, that so far seems to have no end. But, things are not always what they seem. I just bumped up against chaos theory (and plan to take a closer look at it). I think there is something here trying to emerge from all this, and we may all end up being truly shocked when it comes clearly into view.
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Pluto's Child, ever since we 'first contacted' on another forum some many years back, I sensed a depth of experience in you that has been emphatically painful. Reading with interest your experiences. Writing skills improve with time and writing, at least I have found that to be so. A few years back I was stalemated and couldn't seem to get a word out, now when I show up at the keyboard something fluid happens. :)

What I have found about repercussions is this, the more truth I speak, the more transparent I become and so am "off the radar" or they simply have accepted that messing with myself and friends isn't worth it. We do stand in strength when we stand together.
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Christine wrote:Do say more, as I find myself agreeing with what you are saying. I will need find the books you reference.
Pluto's Child wrote:The Book Of Man is something I came across because I'm on a forum that the maker of those videos is on, I found them very interesting but it's one of those things I consider without necessarily believing.

My view that we are not in a "Star Trek" reality re the UFO / abduction scenario is based primarily on my own experiences & the findings of the most truthful & accurate UFO researchers (IMO), Jacques Vallee & John Keel ( specifically the books "The Invisible Collage" & "The Eighth Tower" respectively )

The fact that Hollywood always paints the same picture with "Aliens" says a lot, that is that they are simply intelligent biological entities from other solar systems.

Experience & evidence says this is not the case, it's something far stranger & yet fits perfectly with what the Bible says about our origins, unfashionable as it may be !
Those two books are very readable & explain a lot.....up to a point.

DW is doing a spin version of the classic UFO cult phenomena that is well recorded & has happened over & over again, Dr Greer is just doing a classic version, these UFO cults are covered in Jacques Vallee's "the invisible collage" book.

John Keel has pointed out how UFOs are related to all manner of other phenomena, and that classic UFO researchers "cherry pick" their cases, and that the phenomena is related to mind.

I will do a thread on my "theory", I don't want it under this guy's name lol, I have tried a few times but my writing skills are limited, so nothing has been posted so far, but seeing how this theory I have seems to explain everything I must do it, even though I have worries about repercussions.
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Christine wrote:Pluto's Child, ever since we 'first contacted' on another forum some many years back, I sensed a depth of experience in you that has been emphatically painful. Reading with interest your experiences. Writing skills improve with time and writing, at least I have found that to be so. A few years back I was stalemated and couldn't seem to get a word out, now when I show up at the keyboard something fluid happens. :)

What I have found about repercussions is this, the more truth I speak, the more transparent I become and so am "off the radar" or they simply have accepted that messing with myself and friends isn't worth it. We do stand in strength when we stand together.

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I also posted it on the members section of my own tiny forum should anyone want to make a comment they find awkward on here.

Since my wife & I realised this "theory" more & more has been fitting into place for me, it makes everything simpler rather than complex which has me thinking it's more & more likely to be true.

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