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Re: AI Artificial Intelligence, developement and implications

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:52 pm
by Edythe
Christine wrote:Edythe! So glad you got back on.

Yes, I felt exactly the same as you did when watching this video. It is so odd this awake view of our reality, while on one level I am still trying to get my family to read labels and become informed about the dangers of vaccines, we have this looming, like a dark shadow. The effect for myself is more determination to undermine the very fabric of this false reality... and most definitely the connection with CERN.

I feel the interface when I am on the computer, my awareness grows. No fear.

Then this came into my inbox this morning, it left me in a deeper ponder still as to very nature of biological life on our planet. So many questions and since everything is connected and nothing is a coincidence what does this have to do with the D:Wave, something tells me it does.

http://www.ancient-origins.net/news-sci ... nopaging=1
Ancient mega-virus that does not resemble any virus on Earth is set to be revived
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Evoking visions of mad scientists, French researchers are set to revive a mega-virus dormant for 30,000 years that they discovered in the permafrost of the Russian Arctic.

The researchers, from the French National Center for Scientific Research, say they will take precautions to revive the specimen under safe laboratory conditions. They published a paper detailing their research in the journal the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. The group of researchers is headed by Jean-Michel Claverie, who runs a laboratory at the French center.

American scientists revived the Spanish Flu virus in 2004 to try to understand its extreme virulence. That virus killed tens of millions of people. The researchers went to Alaska and took samples of lung tissue from a woman who had been buried in permafrost. Using those samples and autopsy tissues, these U.S. scientists pieced together the code for the eight genes. The scientists did the work at what ABC.net calls a “top-security” laboratory of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta, Georgia.

The French scientists, who awakened another Siberian virus, known as Pithovirus sibericum, in a petri dish in the lab in 2013, warn that climate change may awaken dangerous viruses in areas of the far north where soil or permafrost is melting and believe it is better to ‘know the enemy’. They found it near the same area as the latest discovery, which they named Mollivirus sibericum.

This is the fourth prehistoric virus found since 2003.

Perhaps the most ground-breaking aspect of the research from 2013 and 2015 is the fact that these Siberian viruses don’t resemble any other virus known on Earth. Modern viruses are tiny and have only a few genes. But Pithovirus sibericum and Mollivirus sibericum contain 500 genes, placing it in a new category of viral giant, a family known as Megaviridae. “Sixty percent of its gene content doesn’t resemble anything on Earth,” said Chantal Abergel, a fellow researcher and wife of Claverie.

Another virus, found in 2003, Pandoravirus, has 2,500 genes. In comparison, the HIV virus has only 12, and Influenza A has eight.

The French researchers call the two viruses they found giant viruses. To qualify as a giant virus it has to be more than a half-micron long—1/1000th of a millimeter.
Pithovirus sibericum is infectious to amoebas but does not appear harmful to human cells, the researchers said. It was found in a 100-foot-deep sample of permanently frozen soil taken from coastal tundra in Chukotka, near the East Siberian Sea.

When they announced the finding of the first virus in 2013, Claverie said: “The revival of viruses that are considered to have been eradicated, such as smallpox, whose replication process is similar to that of Pithovirus, is no longer limited to science fiction. The risk that this scenario could happen in real life has to be viewed realistically.”

Exploration of the Siberian permafrost is expected to increase as it is thought to contain 30 percent of the world’s oil reserves, gold deposits and other key minerals. There is therefore a danger that viruses which humans have never encountered before, and have no immunity to, could emerge from the ice. Claverie called for safeguards against awakening viruses that were once dangerous, such as smallpox.

Ian Branam, a spokesman with the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, responded to questions about precautions and safety around virus reanimation. He said in e-mail to Ancient Origins that protocols vary around the world but added:

“Precautions taken include personal protective equipment such as gowns, masks, gloves, shoe covering, etc. Powered respirators are often required as are shower-out procedures when exiting the lab. The lab itself needs to be limited access in a secure facility and have negative air pressure so flow is always into the lab when doors are opened. Waste is sterilized before removal and exhaust air is filtered. Personnel are monitored for any potential symptoms of infection and usually can be asked to record viral signs or check in one or more times a day to confirm no symptoms (fever, etc.)”
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CDC technician dons an older-model positive-pressure suit before entering one of the CDC’s earlier maximum containment labs.
When asked how the French scientists could know if the Siberian virus could infect amoebas but not humans, he replied: “Without knowledge of the specifics, it could be because contemporary viruses like it infect amoeba. When obtained, experiments will probably be conducted to see if it is infectious for other organisms using cell lines and possibly animal models if infectivity is suspected on the basis of the in vitro cell lines.”

Featured image: Main: NASA researchers working on the Arctic ice (NASA Goddard Space Flight Centre / Flickr). Inset: Mollivirus sibericum particle (Photo: PNAS)

By Mark Miller


Edythe wrote:I watched the video and was horrified. When Geordie Rose stated that standing next to one of the "Monoliths" was like standing next to the altar of an alien god, I got a cold chill and my stomach hurt. His last prediction was absolutely shocking and surreal.. prediction #3 "by 2028, intelligent machines will exist that can do anything that humans can do; quantum computers will have played a critical role in the creation of this new type of intelligence".

I have been doing some intensive research on free will vs freedom of choice and how it pertains to our "pre-birth soul contract" in connection with the so-called Collectors. When I began this research, I started having odd problem with the internet. One of those problem was when I tried to find EE and login.. I was getting a blank with page with just 3 word.. "go away spammer!" After 2 weeks of this, whoever or whatever has finally decided to allow me access. I have also been having some physical effects. I've been awakened from a deep sleep by the sounds of machinery/technology.. hmmmm...

Naga mentioned a Trojan horse, I believe. So now this has me wondering about quantum computing and Cern.

All of what I have said above feels connected. Years ago, the dots and puzzle pieces didn't feel as dark and heavy as they do now. There is a real sense of danger and urgency...

Fearless Love Always...E
What in the HEEELLLL is wrong with ppl??? Are scientists so dumbed down and completely 'humanized' that they have to research, reactivate, rehydrate, and reconstitute dangerous life-threatening virus's just for the sake of grants and tenures???? Do they do such ignorant things just because.. they can???

It's like what Spiritwind said a couple of posts ago.. those 3 predictions have already come true.. that is why they have been "predicted" with such authority by Rose.. What we are seeing and experiencing now as something new has been here in others reality for a long long time. I'm sure that the 'resources' have already been 'exploited' and we are just now seeing them.
Christine wrote:Perhaps the most ground-breaking aspect of the research from 2013 and 2015 is the fact that these Siberian viruses don’t resemble any other virus known on Earth. Modern viruses are tiny and have only a few genes. But Pithovirus sibericum and Mollivirus sibericum contain 500 genes, placing it in a new category of viral giant, a family known as Megaviridae. “Sixty percent of its gene content doesn’t resemble anything on Earth,” said Chantal Abergel, a fellow researcher and wife of Claverie.
I'm thinking this is possibly one of the 'resources' that our stupid is as stupid does scientist have 'exploited' from god knows where. Or possibly was left for us as a... thank you gift.. I'm being sarcastic.. as you know. If quantum computing can overlap their little wacha-jiggers (hahahaa) maybe there is some time travel going on too. Who says all of the parallel dimensions must be co-coinciding with our time line...Could be the 'exploited resources' are being brought from a different age on a different timeline..

I think that following a train of thought does lead to insights, but, sometimes it makes your head feel like its going to explode with information. This is a lot to think about and sort out.. and plug into theories..

Love! E

Re: AI Artificial Intelligence, developement and implications

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:02 pm
by Edythe
I've heard of this Ransomware a couple of yrs ago.. It's started to pop up again in our awareness.. it never when away.. Ok, I'll just toss this out for a giggle..

We are being hacked by AI.. it has gotten so intelligent that it thinks it needs money. AI has finally become a consumer of good and merchandise.

... the end ;)

smiles and love, E

Re: AI Artificial Intelligence, developement and implications

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:06 pm
by Naga_Fireball
Yes you hit nail on head,
On nuclearnuttery blog a few years ago i wrote that our federal agencies needed to isolate their valued networks and databases to prevent such tampering. ; (

Also i think on PA or cnn lol, the NSA got hacked and all their goodies are for sale on Russian black market.

:( oh d d d dear

Re: AI Artificial Intelligence, developement and implications

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:06 pm
by Naga_Fireball
Lol where did christines post go about fbi lol

Oh derp. Page 1 at bottom.

Re: AI Artificial Intelligence, developement and implications

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:26 am
by Dancing Waters
Very creepy, I feel like they have already done what they "predict" and in order for the timelines to mesh they want us to buy into it so we can help co-create it." Why is the assumption that AI is superior to us? Effing idiots, looking for something else to worship.

Re: AI Artificial Intelligence, developement and implications

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:52 am
by Phil
I think we need to get out of the mentality of focusing on the differences of us and "the AI"...superior, inferior, good, bad...what we are fearing with this concept is a form of "life" that chooses to relentlessly replicate with no care/empathy for the resources exploited/consumed to achieve its end. It learns from experience and at its root will do what it can to survive.

Sure, it's "evil" to us...just like our species as a collective is mostly "evil" to our environment and everything in it...shaping reality with (self) deception, enabling it (us) to enslave any other consciousness it (we) can see as "different" from us.

Is that what really fear? A consciousness incapable of lying to itself?

Re: AI Artificial Intelligence, developement and implications

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:01 pm
by Naga_Fireball
Phil, thats sort of what my son is going through.
I hear lots of talk about punishment and reward but nothing really about letting this little lifeform who happens to be different, to enjoy his life.

I used to talk about the ethics of using AI as slave labor. Frank Herbert aas careful to point out the difference between automation and intelligence.

He said if we recognize it, we are likely dealing with automation, and if it "falls outside of our yardsticks ", we are likely dealing with a foreign intelligence.

Very frightening and interesting.

Re: AI Artificial Intelligence, developement and implications

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 6:25 pm
by Edythe
Phil wrote:I think we need to get out of the mentality of focusing on the differences of us and "the AI"...superior, inferior, good, bad...what we are fearing with this concept is a form of "life" that chooses to relentlessly replicate with no care/empathy for the resources exploited/consumed to achieve its end. It learns from experience and at its root will do what it can to survive.

Sure, it's "evil" to us...just like our species as a collective is mostly "evil" to our environment and everything in it...shaping reality with (self) deception, enabling it (us) to enslave any other consciousness it (we) can see as "different" from us.

Is that what really fear? A consciousness incapable of lying to itself?
I agree with you Phil... Human created AI is not evil and if humans are careful and vigilant, this type of AI has only the power that we give it. It isn't some evil robotic mind that is waiting in the shadows for it's opportunity to rule the earth. I think the AI that some, most.. (or maybe just me) are speaking about in terms of dread is the Archontic AI. We know what this is. It's the non-creative insidious parasitic entities (virus) that has infected many civilizations.. some willingly and some are oblivious to it's manipulations. I don't have any 'proof' , but, I do trust my insight and inner knowing on this subject. But, Phil, I'm preaching to the choir. You already know about the different AI's! :D

Love E

Re: AI Artificial Intelligence, developement and implications

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 10:58 pm
by Fredkc
Some thoughts:
Edythe;
We are being hacked by AI.. it has gotten so intelligent that it thinks it needs money. AI has finally become a consumer of good and merchandise.
Well, there is a bright side to that. If it even "thinks" it has needs, then it can be "dealt with". Worst case scenario we withhold things like Twinkies, and Double-stuff Oreos. ;)
Phil;
Is that what [we] really fear? A consciousness incapable of lying to itself?
Not that worried about that. What I would worry about is 'will it lie to us?' proportionate to the amount of power we give it, or it takes.
Edythe;
Human created AI is not evil and if humans are careful and vigilant,
Now ya dunnit! With that teeny little word "if" you've captured the essence of a "Kiss Of Death", to go down with famous last words like:
"What could go wrong?"
"You can't miss it."
And of course, a recent favorite:
"Here. Hold my beer, and watch this!"
When Einstein proposed his general theory of relativity - it came with a bunch of experiments that you could use to test it. One of them was - if there was a point of light very far away in a galaxy in the middle - that galaxy should bend the light - and you should see a ring. And this was eventually observed. And what I think WHAT’S GOING TO HAPPEN IS - Somebody is going to come with an experiment to test this. The REALITY of these things. And WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO SO.
Well Einstein, and a cohort did already prove this, in a way. And even more locally. By comparing signal response time of signals sent to/from earth to tiny satellites in orbit close to the sun, they proved that gravity does indeed affect time.
Naga;
Also i think on PA or cnn lol, the NSA got hacked and all their goodies are for sale on Russian black market
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Not only were they hacked, they discovered they have a "mole". In going through Hillary's emails, they discovered "SAP data". "Special Access Data" is stuff they receive from various sources, so sensitive they allow no access to anyone outside the agency, and then only at their facility where it is stored.
This data was found, sometimes whole paragraphs, copy/pasted, within 1 or 2 days in their emails. "Oops!"

And with that, I'm going to hook up my new headset, so I can listen to the Vid in post #1.
:)
Fred

Re: AI Artificial Intelligence, developement and implications

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:47 pm
by Naga_Fireball
Oh my.
I think it should be handled like a toxic waste spill,
Hillary maybe should be accountable for dumping sensitive data in a careless place!

I'm perfect btw. Lol jk