"Forbidden Subjects" - A Conversation with karelia

[Christine]

Christine met karelia on the Project Avalon forum where they were both moderators. Being a moderator on a large forum presents one with many challenges and opportunities to expand, and it provides fertile ground for forming intuitive and eventually trusting relationships.

They both timidly at first, several years back, approached the nearly forbidden subject of who was Adolf Hitler and what really happened in WWW I and II? They came from two distinct backgrounds and yet had been intrepid enough to start digging deeper in the search for a truth they felt was being covered up.

Our approach isn’t so much as scholars or researchers though we both have diligently investigated the material that is available, it is also from a deep feminine intuitive view that we started to perceive a very different story emerging.

In our next conversation we will go deeper into the esoteric and mysterious VRIL and Thule societies.

For those who wish to delve deeper we present a few of the hundreds if not thousands of links to material that is available. We only ask that our listeners and viewers remain open enough to dare look. This is indeed one of humanity's “Forbidden Subjects.”

David Irving’s website:
http://www.fpp.co.uk/

The Greatest Story Never Told:


Some information/speculation on Maria Orsic and Vril:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/cienc ... ects55.htm

Jan van Helsing’s Secret Societies in the 20th Century:
https://hayaryakanch.files.wordpress.co ... y-1995.pdf

Hitler’s Peace Offers:
http://www.wintersonnenwende.com/script ... wwr00.html

Ernst Zündel:
http://www.zundelsite.org/

UN war clauses (Articles 53 and 107):
http://www.un.org/en/documents/charter/chapter8.shtml

We can be found at earthempaths.net

Our gratitude to those who care look deeper through the veils of deception and are courageous enough to question everything.

[Spiritwind]

This is definitely one of many taboo subjects and I thought you girls did a fine job in trying to show how his(story) gets shaped. I remember when I first began to understand this concept with many of the big name stories in the media. It was hard at first to wrap my mind around how orchestrated almost all of what is put forth as how things are/were, is not based in some definitive truth, all the way back as far as you can go in time. It really does depend on who is telling the story and why. To find the truth it does require at least suspending what you think you know, which is shaped by what we're given to work with by way of sanctioned information. I'm looking forward to your next installment as you move more into this topic. Obviously things are not so cut and dry as our controllers would have us think.

[norman]

I have a hunch/half baked theory that the coverup behind the ban and general media taboo on questioning the holocaust is the real identity of the people who call themselves Jews.

I think there are 2 races of "Jews". Not only that, I'm guessing that if a full scale program of DNA testing could be done, the world would learn that the "Palestinians" are generally more closely related to the original "biblical" Jews than the ones who are barricading them into an ever tighter squeeze to extinction when such testing can no longer be done.

The other race of "Jews" are of uncertain origin but certainly not and never came from Palestine. Ben Fulford calls them Khazarians and suggests that they are eastern European/Ukrainian people who converted to Judaism a very long time ago for some kind of political convenience. These are the 'bankster' Jews, the race that always infiltrate the commerce of any nation and take it over.

My half baked theory is that the destruction of large numbers of Jews in WW2 was basically carried out on behalf of the Khazarians ( who financed the Reich ) who fully intended to replace them and claim their heritage from them, while, at the same time, exploiting the sympathy for the Jews, to slide the scam into place.

[karelia]

Thank you, Spiritwind and Norman.

Yes, the more I looked into it and learned, the less cut and dry the entire subject turns out to be. And the more questions come to mind...

Norman, yes, absolutely, that is my understanding also, regarding the Jewish people! I'll take it one step further, though, and claim that it is only the blame that is put upon the German people for killing so many; I have yet to see evidence this blame is based on truth.

Also, yes, it was the banksters (the usual suspects), who financed Hitler initially, but as far as I know, this aid was withdrawn the moment Hitler created a state-controlled monetary system and threw out the banksters. The fact that *they* work to cause havoc and chaos and control all sides is, in my opinion, clearly shown by the action of Judea declaring war against Germany and Germans as early as 1933, ie. within less than a year of Hitler coming to power.

[Rob Halford]

I think there are 2 races of "Jews". Not only that, I'm guessing that if a full scale program of DNA testing could be done, the world would learn that the "Palestinians" are generally more closely related to the original "biblical" Jews than the ones who are barricading them into an ever tighter squeeze to extinction when such testing can no longer be done.

The other race of "Jews" are of uncertain origin but certainly not and never came from Palestine. Ben Fulford calls them Khazarians and suggests that they are eastern European/Ukrainian people who converted to Judaism a very long time ago for some kind of political convenience. These are the 'bankster' Jews, the race that always infiltrate the commerce of any nation and take it over.

My half baked theory is that the destruction of large numbers of Jews in WW2 was basically carried out on behalf of the Khazarians ( who financed the Reich ) who fully intended to replace them and claim their heritage from them, while, at the same time, exploiting the sympathy for the Jews, to slide the scam into place.

Well Norman, you're right.
The Palestinians are descendants of Jewish people who converted to Islam many years ago.
So, they are brothers to the Jewish people there now and I know many of them that will tell you that straight up.
The khazar idea is a little bit misunderstood.
It was the ruling class that converted from animism to Judaism, not the whole tribe.
It might surprise you to know that many Ashkenazi are aware of the role the Jewish elites play and are very much against it.
I have had many conversations with friends who are Ashkenazi and been very nicely surprised.
This topic is NOT a simple one, obviously and there is so much info, so many facets to this diamond.
Maybe I will do an audio or something................

I'll take it one step further, though, and claim that it is only the blame that is put upon the German people for killing so many; I have yet to see evidence this blame is based on truth.

Also, yes, it was the banksters (the usual suspects), who financed Hitler initially, but as far as I know, this aid was withdrawn the moment Hitler created a state-controlled monetary system and threw out the banksters. The fact that *they* work to cause havoc and chaos and control all sides is, in my opinion, clearly shown by the action of Judea declaring war against Germany and Germans as early as 1933, ie. within less than a year of Hitler coming to power.

The whole role of anti Semitism and the holocaust itself is NOT about Germans.
It is a very nasty part of a looooooooooooong programme of the Jewish shepherds controlling the Jewish flock by scaring them with the many wolves out there waiting to eat them.
And yes, the NSDAP did receive funding from the banksters in the early days before and after 30 January, 1933.
In those days, there were two factions of banksters in America, one behind the Bolsheviks, one behind the NSDAP.
That pro NSDAP faction also had Henry Ford, Charles Lindbergh and others as well as the American Bund.
That faction, having ''lost'' the war was taken over by the others.

[Rob Halford]

Oops, forgot my link.
I made a video a little while ago about this topic.
Karelia is probably the only one that will get it.

[youtube][/youtube]

[norman]

The Palestinians are descendants of Jewish people who converted to Islam many years ago.
So, they are brothers to the Jewish people there now and I know many of them that will tell you that straight up.
The khazar idea is a little bit misunderstood.
It was the ruling class that converted from animism to Judaism, not the whole tribe.
It might surprise you to know that many Ashkenazi are aware of the role the Jewish elites play and are very much against it.
I have had many conversations with friends who are Ashkenazi and been very nicely surprised.
This topic is NOT a simple one, obviously and there is so much info, so many facets to this diamond.
Maybe I will do an audio or something................

Oh yes please Rob.

[Christine]

The Palestinians are descendants of Jewish people who converted to Islam many years ago.
So, they are brothers to the Jewish people there now and I know many of them that will tell you that straight up.
The khazar idea is a little bit misunderstood.
It was the ruling class that converted from animism to Judaism, not the whole tribe.
It might surprise you to know that many Ashkenazi are aware of the role the Jewish elites play and are very much against it.
I have had many conversations with friends who are Ashkenazi and been very nicely surprised.
This topic is NOT a simple one, obviously and there is so much info, so many facets to this diamond.
Maybe I will do an audio or something................

Oh yes please Rob.

Great to have you here on this subject Rob, it is indeed as complex and triggered as it gets. The history would be great, I am not exactly a novice to the subject but I am not a scholar so having hard facts is important. Ignorance breeds ignorance, I prefer Knowledge. Thanks

[Rob Halford]

Gonna make an audio with the ModernWizardnugget...................

[Rob Halford]

Ok, we're done recording, I have to sort it out for upload.